I am talking to Ksenia Fedotova of HOPLA online. She is the chief officer of HR and recruitment for HOPLA and they are an outsourcing supplier here in the Philippines, HOPLA specializes in home based professionals, the emphasis here is on professionals. This isn't the Upwork and freelancer of the world, this is still professionalized outsourcing services. So we're going to talk to her about that and also we talk about Ksenia herself and her experience with outsourcing. I had a really good conversation and I hope you enjoy this episode.